You know. I mean, like. [ The vaguest of gesticulations that don't actually accompany anything he's saying because they don't happen at the right time. And they're vague. ] Like when you have a, a moment, and then afterwards you convince yourself something else about it. It might not have been like the way you remember it but it doesn't mean it wasn't like that anyway and you just didn't - [ Another hand wavey thing. ] - process it at the time. And either way, if it's how you remember it. [ Shrug. ]

And then shit like just working stuff out as you go. You know. Spontaneity. Stuff.